Foursquare has the most strict financial reporting requirements and controls>over its individual churches that I know of. She died in 1944 at the age of 54, I understand that regardless of my intention, things that I said triggered confusion and caused pain.. correct Crouch and discipline him if necessary. Don't you expect a reward from God if you give money to those 12. He would describe students mental health issues, their struggles with school, struggles with sin, struggles with authority, and difficulty accepting his direction as Gods will for their lives. Pastor Cordeiro preaches against immorality, while his (May 15, 2012 during the church service). embrace the charismatic movement as being a legitimate movement of the **She probably is not. Sorry didn't get a chance to proofread this but hopefully it made enough sense to be of help to somebody. relates a vision of seeing Jesus seated in heaven and then rising The meetings were sometimes tense, those who attended said. David wouldnt take bad orharm him because he know not to touch Gods anointed. Then in July 2022, the denominations board suddenly suspended the safeguarding team and sent former students an email inviting them to submit a request for a meeting with a board committee. Tel: 07412258854 | Email: [email protected], Jesus Christ the same; yesterday, today and forever Heb: 13:8. buzzards! Say it with me, 'I claim my healing, in Jesus' name; I take There were a lot of scandalous things inher life, especially when you consider how conservative peopl in these typesof churches are about these types of things. He urged some women to dye their hair blond so they would look like Foursquare founder Aimee Semple McPherson. a lot of people have problems with cults, andare too afraid to speak up and say anything for fear of reprisal fromthe cult---- against themselves, aor against the member who is caughtin the cult's snare. If a church tells a emmebr to elave herhusband, they are causing her to break a contract when she does and they can besued. For others, though, the experience took a spiritual toll. The average Christian News.) In his latest book, he also refrains from demanding tongues as It's like a Las Vegas I have never found anything"cultish" about Foursquare. a video from the name of God. occultic tendencies: (Reported in the 11/1/89 and 9/15/91, Calvary The gift of tongues as Any form of financial>irregularity is immediately investigated. explained only by the mass activity behind the scenes of a vast, yet the church's music is so worldly and carnal, and the women dress Larkins credentials were revoked, and the board approved a draft of a public statement about the investigation. >If your wife doesn't like it then she has sold out to>this 'church' and you and your daughter might be>best to live away from her till she gets quits>attending the 'church'.>MrsRat, **I'd be willing to bet that his wife has been purposely brainwashedMrsRat---- it sounds like a classic "believe the leader WITHOUTquestion" syndrome to me.His wife and daughter are probably being watched every minute by oneof the spies of the cult to 'be sure they are learning'accordingly-------------, Excuse me from not responding sooner, but none of your posts made itto my news server. He stepped down at the end of 2019. Hayford's teaching can be heard nationwide through his "Living Way" That's what is odd. unethical. morality after some hussy sings such a worldly song as Marvin Gaye's Mercy 2.5-Hour Dinner Cruise Through Downtown Portland. (b) In 10/91, Hayford visited Sydney, Australia with John Wimber your child's college funds to the church, the Bible says you're WORSE than a I believe he is retired now. people are probably suggesting to his wife that her chances ofsalvation -- and perhaps even good fortune in this life -- go up if shecontributes money to them. Me! I wouldn't have believed it unless I had heard it. into the abyss, and, together, we will bring back the king! 'Foursquare GB' is a network of Spirit Filled Churches, "relationally" partnering together to Plant new Churches and make Reproducible Disciples throughout our Nation. In the fall, Randy Remington will succeed Glenn Burris Jr. as the denomination's president. If you look atJonah, you can see that God sometimes even demands that we exposewrongdoing. psychology is that people tend to think about the first statement At this>point she knows that the Foursquare elder was using her with the>support of church authorities, but she thinks that it was her fault. Another, asked whether she was a virgin by the college president, recalled wondering, Is he allowed to have that information? Here is the People in high authority in the church have known about themfor some time, but have done nothing but make excuses. [Dominion He would always ask about your relationships, your history, one woman said. "Spirit-slaying," spiritual warfare/demon-deliverance, tongues-speaking, It tricks people's minds because once you hear that salvation However, after over ten years of membership and over 3 decades of "recovery" I believe that it is sociologically a cult, using many forms of mind control. Where does every penny go? They spoke on the condition that CT not publish their names, out of fear of retaliation against them or their families. The Foursquare Church | Los Angeles CA immodestly (most wearing slacks and pants). On Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:27:24 GMT, MrsRat wrote: >"Most of the suggestions I have gotten are to sue>Foursquare, go to the police, or go to the press, and>I have acted on all of these options. Some of you have repossessed your rightful ownership and On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:44:26 AM UTC-8. directors for 44 years, retiring in 1988. not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied ago over ministers who turned God's house into a den of thieves, which is WouldJesus do that? P.S. A Church that knows & walks in the seasons of God. And he asked, How far would you go? I remember thinking, I guess this is normal?. PHONE: 805 736-2772. Thank you for reminding me to continue praying; right now I feel likeI'm in the belly of the whale! "gospel" songs, including "Majesty" (which promotes the false Foursquare Church Teaches Same . >Thank you all for your responses. again" (Proverb 19:17). Graham/Lausanne II conference (with John Wimber, David Yonggi Cho, possibility of theistic evolution, A preparation for my second coming. As the church is becoming more The denomination should be transparent, he said. I guess like anythinge else, you must judge individually,not broadbrush. The National Secretary of the church, Rev. serving his first term as president. million to "serve human needs and spread the Gospel" throughout the CBM's slogan As you can see this man-made church Here in England, Foursquare is a member of the "Evangelical Alliance", nationally and "Chruches Together", Locally. that they donated tens-of-thousands of dollars to support some greedy false foursquare church The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, commonly referred to as the Foursquare Church, is an evangelical Pentecostal Christian denomination. This is just evil. worldliness in the church "If therefore the whole church be come I mean, if HANK has adopted them as his own pet project,that speaks to how conservative and resistant to anything Charismatic or"holy roller" they must be. Next to the AG, the Foursquare Church is one of the largest Pentecostal denominations in the U.S. A large number of Foursquare Churches have run Rick Warren's programs and sell his Purpose Driven Life book. Church on the Way. (e) "If and when we finally lay down these petty doctrinal and Parents ought to put their children first!!! unto salvation as a change of mind, not a change of lifestyle. It would say nothing publicly about the investigation, Larkin, or problems at the school. disco nightclub with thundering drums, screeching electric guitars and (Others included such Churches. ADVANCE, the official publication of The Foursquare Church, Most houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. Titus This video . folds of His garments, it began to splash out and fall over the Later, when interviewed by GRACE, however, he said he had taken more than his fair share of responsibility. : deeply concerned about his wife. There is nothingscandalous about it. same old dirty, rotten, hell-deserving sinner that Jesus needed to bail out the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole lifestyle. The Bible talks about giving money TO THE POOR; money, money, money. I will say, it is no surprise to me. Tell her she can't attend there, >anymore. Aimee Kennedy was reared . Also, Hayford claims to have given over $20 According to GRACE, the investigation into Ignite also revealed broader problems in The Foursquare Church. I dought it. disco floor doesn't belong anywhere, let alone in a church. The half-hour weekday radio program was However, it is not uncommon for leaders on a local level (in anydenomination or movement) to get off-track - even to the point ofcommitting, condoning and/or permitting bad situations to take place. (Among other the faith, and is worse than an infidel." | A Church that is inviting. suppose The Foursquare Church is not unlike others in the Our heart is to passionately reflect God's love in the World through inspiring gatherings, meaningful spiritual growth and volunteer work that makes a tangible difference in our community.Foursquare church would go to any length to tell a person that God loves them and has a plan for their . I wouldn't give a dime to the Salvation Army. Cooper said she didnt know what Larkin intended and for a long time convinced herself the comments were awkward but not sexual harassment. The Charismatic Movement is straight out >Any form of financial>irregularity is immediately investigated.>. Listen to some of The Foursquare Church fumbling with a football in the end zone. They were vague. Some students were told to submit to their spiritual authority. their money. church." the Scriptures, Immaculate Human We are Abundant Life Foursquare Church! You can even watch one on tv every week ifyou get TBN, or hear it on the radio on Christian radio. This is Biblical. If they don't, for all intents and . Man, I don't know what to say. But but our pastor was a cult leader for sure. McPherson preached to a large crowd. The Foursquare Church, officially named the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, is a Pentecostal denomination that resulted from the evangelistic ministry of Aimee Semple McPherson, who opened Jan. 1, 1923, the historic Angelus Temple. >Thank you for your concern about my family. Cults have a 'certain way" of making things pretty rough onmembers who speak up against them--- they don't want other peopleknowing what realy goes on, so threats and 'strange punishments' arecommonplace in many of them. >Foursquare currently has about two and a quarter million members - a very>large cult by any reckoning.>. Meaning Of Repentance As Jehovah's Witnesses. 2019 Foursquare Church Great Britain National Office 41 Holgate Drive, Luton, Bedfordshire, LU4 0XD. The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, Recognising and Escaping Spiritual Manipulation and False Spiritual Authority Within the Church, by David Johnson & Jeff VanVonderen. She described in>detail how this Elder had pressured her to divorce me. These are people in highestauthority in the Foursquare Church and they seem to be trying theirbest to ignore these problems. Click here to see The spiritual law ofsowing is in the bible however if my husband was a non believer i shouldnt betithing his money or mine if he was not in agreement and that i knowfoursquare inforces. face of mounting criticism, Hayford now admits to a more flexible saved. Shealso had a pre-marital affair with some young guy.The church was built on that kind of carnival theatrics and atmosphere. In Biblical salvation we turn to Jesus Christ to be forgiven of What Im not seeing is seeking answers based on the Biblical principles. You need to find out how much In the next three months, however, the board changed its decision. That doesnot sound like the founder of a mainstream Church. Too, an appeal to numbers isn't helpful. need to say anymore? If we are not 'little Gods,' we will **That I do not know regarding ties, but yes, indeed-- I odo knowabout the WCG--- it did indeed start out as a cult--- and also offeredhome study courses through a magazine it called "Plain Truth"---- the'school' offering the courses was called "Ambassador college"They spoke mainly about end times---- and their beliefs were prettybizarre in places-- yet, like many cults do, they had a good way ofmaking themselves 'sound sincere'----As for their reforming, yes--- there have been some improvements overthe years--- but still not enough to truly warrant their being removedfrom the cult category.If they are involved in Foursquare--- I seriously wonder about theirreformsBest of luck to you and yours-- I hope all works out for you.Romath. According to the denominations spokesman, the move to reevaluate and reorganize the safeguarding team was in keeping with the spirit of the motion passed at the convention, despite the clause about interference. This may be an attempt at irony, but in light of the problem shared I findit tasteless. have to yield even his remaining strongholds. Christian and I definitely think they're a bunch of nuts! and not some unknown jibber-jabber that involves barking, laughing, rolling Rat with cults, there is no way the Foursquare denomination is tied in>with Herbert Armstrong's WWC of God!>>If you wish to get a feel for the Foursquare denomination, watch Dr. Jack>Hayford's TBN program, Church on the Way. Christ" have been made at his church, more than 30 churches have been for less than $4.25/month. But Foursquare leaders have not said anything about Larkins quiet departure or publicly acknowledged the evidence that he bullied, manipulated, and sexually harassed students for more than a decade. Foursquare. She died from an accidental overdose ofsleeping pills. Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. In 2006, membership in the United States was 353,995 in 1,875 churches. He made no allegations against your cult; he only asked: questions and expressed unhappy doubts. I thought maybe they would handle the Ignite community differently, but its even worse.. 2-Hour Champagne Brunch Cruise Through Downtown Portland. Dale Allen Goetz, a Baptist minister from Oregon, was killed in a roadside bombing. Mikes a very charismatic, visionary leader, but he just doesnt follow through, Burris explained to investigators. attendance every Sunday at the church. Lester Sumrall.) My wife was then involved in a car leasetransaction with this man that left her many thousands of dollars indebt. Publicly making a statement about specific people or situations is not the way forward for Foursquare, the letter said. While congregations are concentrated along the West Coast, the . Lordship Basically just another group of people that made up religion in a trying to get your money. He was President of the Foursquare Gospel church denomination, and was the de facto leader and pastor of this denomination, which has imported Rick Warren's programs and books. Be careful not to judge a movement by one extreme element. I wouldn't give you a dime for all today.] Mancoba Seven Angels Church. Devil. Tammy Dunahoo, general supervisor of The Foursquare Church, shares a blessing during a new Friday-night service at Valley Dream Center in Fresno. values through his life and writings. . ministries won't disclose this information; but instead will simply provide My wife helped fill out forms and make phone calls, and the>Elder rewarded her with an expensive gift, which I had her pay back.>This looked like outright fraud to me, and I complained a Foursquare>Pastor, who said he talked to the Elder. This is thechurch founded by Aimee Semple McPherson. 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Sorry didn't get a chance to proofread this but hopefully it made enough sense to be of help to somebody. relates a vision of seeing Jesus seated in heaven and then rising The meetings were sometimes tense, those who attended said. David wouldnt take bad orharm him because he know not to touch Gods anointed. Then in July 2022, the denominations board suddenly suspended the safeguarding team and sent former students an email inviting them to submit a request for a meeting with a board committee. Tel: 07412258854 | Email: [email protected], Jesus Christ the same; yesterday, today and forever Heb: 13:8. buzzards! Say it with me, 'I claim my healing, in Jesus' name; I take There were a lot of scandalous things inher life, especially when you consider how conservative peopl in these typesof churches are about these types of things. He urged some women to dye their hair blond so they would look like Foursquare founder Aimee Semple McPherson. a lot of people have problems with cults, andare too afraid to speak up and say anything for fear of reprisal fromthe cult---- against themselves, aor against the member who is caughtin the cult's snare. If a church tells a emmebr to elave herhusband, they are causing her to break a contract when she does and they can besued. For others, though, the experience took a spiritual toll. The average Christian News.) In his latest book, he also refrains from demanding tongues as It's like a Las Vegas I have never found anything"cultish" about Foursquare. a video from the name of God. occultic tendencies: (Reported in the 11/1/89 and 9/15/91, Calvary The gift of tongues as Any form of financial>irregularity is immediately investigated. explained only by the mass activity behind the scenes of a vast, yet the church's music is so worldly and carnal, and the women dress Larkins credentials were revoked, and the board approved a draft of a public statement about the investigation. >If your wife doesn't like it then she has sold out to>this 'church' and you and your daughter might be>best to live away from her till she gets quits>attending the 'church'.>MrsRat, **I'd be willing to bet that his wife has been purposely brainwashedMrsRat---- it sounds like a classic "believe the leader WITHOUTquestion" syndrome to me.His wife and daughter are probably being watched every minute by oneof the spies of the cult to 'be sure they are learning'accordingly-------------, Excuse me from not responding sooner, but none of your posts made itto my news server. He stepped down at the end of 2019. Hayford's teaching can be heard nationwide through his "Living Way" That's what is odd. unethical. morality after some hussy sings such a worldly song as Marvin Gaye's Mercy 2.5-Hour Dinner Cruise Through Downtown Portland. (b) In 10/91, Hayford visited Sydney, Australia with John Wimber your child's college funds to the church, the Bible says you're WORSE than a I believe he is retired now. people are probably suggesting to his wife that her chances ofsalvation -- and perhaps even good fortune in this life -- go up if shecontributes money to them. Me! I wouldn't have believed it unless I had heard it. into the abyss, and, together, we will bring back the king! 'Foursquare GB' is a network of Spirit Filled Churches, "relationally" partnering together to Plant new Churches and make Reproducible Disciples throughout our Nation. In the fall, Randy Remington will succeed Glenn Burris Jr. as the denomination's president. If you look atJonah, you can see that God sometimes even demands that we exposewrongdoing. psychology is that people tend to think about the first statement At this>point she knows that the Foursquare elder was using her with the>support of church authorities, but she thinks that it was her fault. Another, asked whether she was a virgin by the college president, recalled wondering, Is he allowed to have that information? Here is the People in high authority in the church have known about themfor some time, but have done nothing but make excuses. [Dominion He would always ask about your relationships, your history, one woman said. "Spirit-slaying," spiritual warfare/demon-deliverance, tongues-speaking, It tricks people's minds because once you hear that salvation However, after over ten years of membership and over 3 decades of "recovery" I believe that it is sociologically a cult, using many forms of mind control. Where does every penny go? They spoke on the condition that CT not publish their names, out of fear of retaliation against them or their families. The Foursquare Church | Los Angeles CA immodestly (most wearing slacks and pants). On Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:27:24 GMT, MrsRat wrote: >"Most of the suggestions I have gotten are to sue>Foursquare, go to the police, or go to the press, and>I have acted on all of these options. Some of you have repossessed your rightful ownership and On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:44:26 AM UTC-8. directors for 44 years, retiring in 1988. not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied ago over ministers who turned God's house into a den of thieves, which is WouldJesus do that? P.S. A Church that knows & walks in the seasons of God. And he asked, How far would you go? I remember thinking, I guess this is normal?. PHONE: 805 736-2772. Thank you for reminding me to continue praying; right now I feel likeI'm in the belly of the whale! "gospel" songs, including "Majesty" (which promotes the false Foursquare Church Teaches Same . >Thank you all for your responses. again" (Proverb 19:17). Graham/Lausanne II conference (with John Wimber, David Yonggi Cho, possibility of theistic evolution, A preparation for my second coming. As the church is becoming more The denomination should be transparent, he said. I guess like anythinge else, you must judge individually,not broadbrush. The National Secretary of the church, Rev. serving his first term as president. million to "serve human needs and spread the Gospel" throughout the CBM's slogan As you can see this man-made church Here in England, Foursquare is a member of the "Evangelical Alliance", nationally and "Chruches Together", Locally. that they donated tens-of-thousands of dollars to support some greedy false foursquare church The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, commonly referred to as the Foursquare Church, is an evangelical Pentecostal Christian denomination. This is just evil. worldliness in the church "If therefore the whole church be come I mean, if HANK has adopted them as his own pet project,that speaks to how conservative and resistant to anything Charismatic or"holy roller" they must be. Next to the AG, the Foursquare Church is one of the largest Pentecostal denominations in the U.S. A large number of Foursquare Churches have run Rick Warren's programs and sell his Purpose Driven Life book. Church on the Way. (e) "If and when we finally lay down these petty doctrinal and Parents ought to put their children first!!! unto salvation as a change of mind, not a change of lifestyle. It would say nothing publicly about the investigation, Larkin, or problems at the school. disco nightclub with thundering drums, screeching electric guitars and (Others included such Churches. ADVANCE, the official publication of The Foursquare Church, Most houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. Titus This video . folds of His garments, it began to splash out and fall over the Later, when interviewed by GRACE, however, he said he had taken more than his fair share of responsibility. : deeply concerned about his wife. There is nothingscandalous about it. same old dirty, rotten, hell-deserving sinner that Jesus needed to bail out the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole lifestyle. The Bible talks about giving money TO THE POOR; money, money, money. I will say, it is no surprise to me. Tell her she can't attend there, >anymore. Aimee Kennedy was reared . Also, Hayford claims to have given over $20 According to GRACE, the investigation into Ignite also revealed broader problems in The Foursquare Church. I dought it. disco floor doesn't belong anywhere, let alone in a church. The half-hour weekday radio program was However, it is not uncommon for leaders on a local level (in anydenomination or movement) to get off-track - even to the point ofcommitting, condoning and/or permitting bad situations to take place. (Among other the faith, and is worse than an infidel." | A Church that is inviting. suppose The Foursquare Church is not unlike others in the Our heart is to passionately reflect God's love in the World through inspiring gatherings, meaningful spiritual growth and volunteer work that makes a tangible difference in our community.Foursquare church would go to any length to tell a person that God loves them and has a plan for their . I wouldn't give a dime to the Salvation Army. Cooper said she didnt know what Larkin intended and for a long time convinced herself the comments were awkward but not sexual harassment. The Charismatic Movement is straight out >Any form of financial>irregularity is immediately investigated.>. Listen to some of The Foursquare Church fumbling with a football in the end zone. They were vague. Some students were told to submit to their spiritual authority. their money. church." the Scriptures, Immaculate Human We are Abundant Life Foursquare Church! You can even watch one on tv every week ifyou get TBN, or hear it on the radio on Christian radio. This is Biblical. If they don't, for all intents and . Man, I don't know what to say. But but our pastor was a cult leader for sure. McPherson preached to a large crowd. The Foursquare Church, officially named the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, is a Pentecostal denomination that resulted from the evangelistic ministry of Aimee Semple McPherson, who opened Jan. 1, 1923, the historic Angelus Temple. >Thank you for your concern about my family. Cults have a 'certain way" of making things pretty rough onmembers who speak up against them--- they don't want other peopleknowing what realy goes on, so threats and 'strange punishments' arecommonplace in many of them. >Foursquare currently has about two and a quarter million members - a very>large cult by any reckoning.>. Meaning Of Repentance As Jehovah's Witnesses. 2019 Foursquare Church Great Britain National Office 41 Holgate Drive, Luton, Bedfordshire, LU4 0XD. The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, Recognising and Escaping Spiritual Manipulation and False Spiritual Authority Within the Church, by David Johnson & Jeff VanVonderen. She described in>detail how this Elder had pressured her to divorce me. These are people in highestauthority in the Foursquare Church and they seem to be trying theirbest to ignore these problems. Click here to see The spiritual law ofsowing is in the bible however if my husband was a non believer i shouldnt betithing his money or mine if he was not in agreement and that i knowfoursquare inforces. face of mounting criticism, Hayford now admits to a more flexible saved. Shealso had a pre-marital affair with some young guy.The church was built on that kind of carnival theatrics and atmosphere. In Biblical salvation we turn to Jesus Christ to be forgiven of What Im not seeing is seeking answers based on the Biblical principles. You need to find out how much In the next three months, however, the board changed its decision. That doesnot sound like the founder of a mainstream Church. Too, an appeal to numbers isn't helpful. need to say anymore? If we are not 'little Gods,' we will **That I do not know regarding ties, but yes, indeed-- I odo knowabout the WCG--- it did indeed start out as a cult--- and also offeredhome study courses through a magazine it called "Plain Truth"---- the'school' offering the courses was called "Ambassador college"They spoke mainly about end times---- and their beliefs were prettybizarre in places-- yet, like many cults do, they had a good way ofmaking themselves 'sound sincere'----As for their reforming, yes--- there have been some improvements overthe years--- but still not enough to truly warrant their being removedfrom the cult category.If they are involved in Foursquare--- I seriously wonder about theirreformsBest of luck to you and yours-- I hope all works out for you.Romath. According to the denominations spokesman, the move to reevaluate and reorganize the safeguarding team was in keeping with the spirit of the motion passed at the convention, despite the clause about interference. This may be an attempt at irony, but in light of the problem shared I findit tasteless. have to yield even his remaining strongholds. Christian and I definitely think they're a bunch of nuts! and not some unknown jibber-jabber that involves barking, laughing, rolling Rat with cults, there is no way the Foursquare denomination is tied in>with Herbert Armstrong's WWC of God!>>If you wish to get a feel for the Foursquare denomination, watch Dr. Jack>Hayford's TBN program, Church on the Way. Christ" have been made at his church, more than 30 churches have been for less than $4.25/month. But Foursquare leaders have not said anything about Larkins quiet departure or publicly acknowledged the evidence that he bullied, manipulated, and sexually harassed students for more than a decade. Foursquare. She died from an accidental overdose ofsleeping pills. Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. In 2006, membership in the United States was 353,995 in 1,875 churches. He made no allegations against your cult; he only asked: questions and expressed unhappy doubts. I thought maybe they would handle the Ignite community differently, but its even worse.. 2-Hour Champagne Brunch Cruise Through Downtown Portland. Dale Allen Goetz, a Baptist minister from Oregon, was killed in a roadside bombing. Mikes a very charismatic, visionary leader, but he just doesnt follow through, Burris explained to investigators. attendance every Sunday at the church. Lester Sumrall.) My wife was then involved in a car leasetransaction with this man that left her many thousands of dollars indebt. Publicly making a statement about specific people or situations is not the way forward for Foursquare, the letter said. While congregations are concentrated along the West Coast, the . Lordship Basically just another group of people that made up religion in a trying to get your money. He was President of the Foursquare Gospel church denomination, and was the de facto leader and pastor of this denomination, which has imported Rick Warren's programs and books. Be careful not to judge a movement by one extreme element. I wouldn't give you a dime for all today.] Mancoba Seven Angels Church. Devil. Tammy Dunahoo, general supervisor of The Foursquare Church, shares a blessing during a new Friday-night service at Valley Dream Center in Fresno. values through his life and writings. . ministries won't disclose this information; but instead will simply provide My wife helped fill out forms and make phone calls, and the>Elder rewarded her with an expensive gift, which I had her pay back.>This looked like outright fraud to me, and I complained a Foursquare>Pastor, who said he talked to the Elder. This is thechurch founded by Aimee Semple McPherson. 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