The type of file and the method you use to open the iProperties dialog box determines the available tabs. i have found why my steps had connectivity to assembly, because when i imported them i kept reference model on. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2016, Inventor 2016, & Product Design Suite 2016. Thanks in advance. Click the Other tab to select sketches, work geometry, and parameters. I've only been using Inventor for a few months but have rapidly grown to like it. Thanks again everyone, you really helped. i have the same issue, but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated. Can you post some screen shots of what you see? Continue selecting remaining components as needed to exclude them from the simplified part. A derived assembly (not in LT) component originates from an assembly file and may contain parts, subassemblies, and derived parts. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. This option allows the part to resize or change position if the constraining parameters or components change. New parts can be sketched on the faces of other components that have edges or features needed for the new part. At assembly level, the mass is aggregated from the parts (per quantity per Reference). I have all files unlocked (ready to be worked on), I shape them as I please, which is OK, then I want to save on TOP assembly, but it does not update the mass of it, eventhough all below assemblies get the mass and also the part. Because both of the files are dirtied, save dialog will pop up, save them both. In the Open dialog box, browse to the assembly file (.iam) to use as the base component. Okay lets take the "can't change anything" out of there. Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. I can't find the command. 3D ContentCentral 2D 3D 2D 2,550,431 CAD 2D 3D 2D I need to search again for it but I am sure the mass is first written internally to the assembly and the part before it is written to the Physical Property, and there it goes wrong. When you click Create and select a plane on which to sketch, the part environment is activated. Solved by Cadmanto. For a Vault environment this is called a Dirty Maker and is frustrating enough to update everytime. When you click Create and select a plane on which to sketch, the part environment is activated. Create and save your assembly Open a new part file Select the Derive tool in the Create section of the 3D Model ribbon Navigate to your saved assembly file on disk Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. This sounds like a data management issue. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Accept the default or use the Status buttons at the top to change the status of all selected objects quickly. Part now has mass updated, but assembly does not. In Inventor, go to the MANAGE TAB - iLogic Panel and click iTrigger. If you want to create a single solid part with no pre-existing features or bodies, choose Finish Sketch when you start the new part to close the default sketch. I don't want to post any files here from my actual project. Most often when I'm doing this I'm removing subassembly_A and subassembly_B from the top level assembly, so I delete them from the assembly at this point. Use command manageriLogic command to update mass (synchronous - important, otherwise it does not work!). Use one of these methods to specify the size: Click the arrow at the end of the value field to select a recently used value. The iProperties command is available for in-place editing of an assembly as well as in-place editing of a part. Is it possible to convert an assembly into a parts file? The Design View representation affects the status of components in the Body tab. So solution is to not use the Application Options for this but write an add-in that does the calculation only if the file is checked out and not Read-only. Select features, bodies, surfaces, visible 2D and 3D sketches, work features, parameters, and iMates to include or exclude from the derived part. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. Report 1 Like Reply Message 3 of 7 cwhetten in reply to: JavaLodge Perhaps you can just save the original assembly as a new assembly and simply remove the unwanted parts. : step, igs, parasolids, etc.) The new part can change size when constrained to fixed geometry in the assembly. Do not sell or share my personal information. option, then open it in. Go to Solution. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. The mass issue occurs if we changed some sub-part in assembly (assembly being released), then it always wants to compute, which is logical since we would need to save (quick change) whole structure from that part above. The BOM Structure property defines the status of the component in the BOM. Works also with just update() command. Inventor has a very nice dialog box that allows users to see and manipulate BOM's from either the assembly environment or the drawing environment. (Suppressed components are excluded; this cannot be changed. As a side note, the derive functionality is also used for mirrored parts, substitute Level of Detail parts and simplified parts. This options should at least save proper mass, if you save it once and release it, but it does not, if it is not saved correctly as you described and as in above pictures. Also and more critical that if the file is to be released in Vault that the mass is filled in correctly, this is often not the case. At the component instance level, you can override the structure to be Reference. If we have update everything, all files will have mass, but if we change some low level part, all structure above will have to be computed to get the new mass. Remove parts by size is deselected and the Exclude selector is active. Somehow update mass does not run properly on top assembly (it is still enabled after saving, while on other documents is not). While it is true that a STL file has no connection to the model that produced it (as with STEP), a STL file is no longer usable geometry in Inventor or many other modeling systems. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. RMB on the derive node in the model browser and select "Suppress Link" to temporally break the part's dependency on the assembly file. It seems that the most logical way to approach this would be to use promote and demote. I'm assuming you're doing this in VBA. Go to Solution. The trouble I can see is that an assembly is released, while some of the parts (shared by multiple assemblies) are still being worked on. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. Begin selecting parts or components in the canvas. Selects element for inclusion in the derived part. Dec 5, 2012 #4 Karol Member The Simplify command is used to both create and edit simplified parts. (The iMate may be used, but not edited.). It was also set the same in example above. You may still have to fix a couple of constraints, as promoting and demoting can do some funky things with existing constraints (Inventor does its best to read your mind to know what you want it to do with the constraints, but sometimes it gets it wrong). #Autodesk Inventor Quick Tip: Simplify assembly to a single part An assembly drawing will show the parts assembled and any subsequent modifications that would need to be made AFTER the parts are assembled. If the option is set to No, the files will not be prompted to saved. Create a Simplified Part from an Assembly The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. You now have a part file that is a dependent copy of an assembly file. If the base part contains multiple visible solid bodies, select the required bodies to create a multi-body part. The source is called the base component. I also like the replies you give "In General" and try to understand what is different sometimes between the theory and the practice. For each of the listed feature types specify which you want to remove and the way you want to remove them: Substitutes are model states based on a simplified model. I see a real big progress in the newest version of Inventor of course, regarding the application options. The Assembly node is renamed to Assembly1. For here internal we have written an add in that will the normal user not allow to change some application options and we have given only the Admin the rights for this. Represents the selected component in the derived part as a bounding box and creates a body from the bounding box shape. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Excludes element in the derived part. Solved by jjstr8. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. In the browser, the top-level assembly is unavailable, and the new part is active. Additionally, some of the parts I need to do this with are design accelerator parts. Is this possible? Optionally, select a built-in preset to use. Go to the assembly and save it. You can save the assembly in any format (i.e. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. You can remove geometry by visibility and size to simplify the part. If the Update Physical Properties on Save options is turned on, the affected files should be prompted to save. All the components must be at the same level within a single parent assembly. If unchecked, the appearance is set to default appearance of the target part. Any CAD program can be used to edit a solid body. From the Assembly tab. If possible, I would like to see examples. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. Repeat the same process in steps 2 & 3 on the other parts. Hi i did that it didnt work. In principle every feature; Option and tool that is available in Inventor should work with no problem in a Vault Environmenttoo. Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum. When an assembly is released, it means that all components need to be released (not subject to further change). Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. This problem has nothing do to with above discussion. It seems update on physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies) setting does not work properly. I want to get a 3D print of a model I have but it is amodel of an assembly and it has to be converted to a solid body. I hope this helps.Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,Curtishttp://inventortrenches.blogspot.com, Forum links:Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum|Inventor Ideas Forum |General Inventor Forum. If this solved your issue please mark thisposting "Accept as Solution". I'm not just dealing with two subassemblies. All other situations are more or less not that critical. @johnsonshiueCan you please again take a look at the behavior. They are prompted to save, you can even see in above pictures, but TOP assembly does not compute the mass first time, it does on second save (when save dialog is not shown). SolidWork Newbie since 2001-Currently using SW2017 Inventor Newbie since 2019 Start a new part file, then go to the Manage tab and click the Import button. I then close the top level assembly (without saving changes) and reopen it. Click the selection priority you want to use. Creating an in-place part has the same result as inserting a previously created part file. Adaptive (controlled by relationships to other assembly components). Descibe the final use of your "a solid body where I can't change anything". There are 3 views of the BOM: Model, Structured, and Parts only (you can refer to BOM 102 and BOM 103 for more) It always reflects the entire assembly and its current state. Select Remove All Internal Voids to fill all internal void shells in the derived solid body part. You can also use it as a way to link parameters, sketches, or scale geometry from part or assembly files. If the Y-axis is perpendicular to the Top plane, the model is rotated so the Inventor Z-axis is perpendicular to the View Cube Top plane. I wish I could mark all of your posts as solutions because I essentially used elements of each to get my new file. Check your SavePath folder. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. You can even give multiple Kudos. When accessed from the BIM Content environment, theOutput Type is locked to Substitute. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. For more information see To Work with Presets. Component position contributes to defining the envelope size. Success! only found the ipn files. I guess this is logical, in this situation we have 2 ways to go, first one is do not change anything, second one is, if we have to change, we would have to change the part and all files which this part is referenced to, which can be a lot of work and inefficient. Recommendation: Position and mate at least one of the components before you begin, then select that component first. Is there a way I can override that so the parts wont be updated? If all you want is a dumb solid (not editable one after the translation), >a dumb solid (not editable one after the translation), You are such a great educator JD, it is unbelievable! Create a simplified part in an assembly using the Simplify command. Then I demote or drag and drop the components from subassembly_A into subassembly_C, then drag and drop the components from subassembly_B into subassembly_C. Besides. Changes in design views do not affect envelope size. Also, any assembly consuming the part will have N/A. To specify the body or bodies to include, expand the Solid Bodies folder and use the Status button to include or exclude bodies. However, doing this on your existing subassemblies will modify them, which you specifically said you don't want to do. The reduced detail decreases memory consumption. If you want to edit with Inventor, then use a simplified assembly (=.ipt) file with the link to assembly broken. What You Will Do: Prepare production drawing documents based on sales or production requests Produce drawings of Plan Views, exploded Assemblies, Assemblies, and Components. Using the project command select the feature edges wanted in the part file. Enter a meaningful name for the new part file. save the assembly as SAT file using Save Copy As. If the App options is not turned on, the mass of such part will show N/A. As you select options, other options that are invalid are hidden. Granted, the OP was, > It would be a lot more useful (for me, at least). This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. http://cadsetterout.com/inventor-tutorials/copy-an-autodesk-inventor-design/. Creates a derived part with a single surface body. I'm Inventor has a similar feature. Sounds like you are after 2010 multi-body solids, but I still don't understand where the "can't change anything" comes in? - Autodesk Community - Inventor Inventor Forum Welcome to Autodesk's Inventor Forums. If required, click Select from Base to allow graphical selection of components from the base component window. Changes in a model state affect the envelope size. Glad you joined us from lurking in the shadows. A STEP file has no links to any of its origin files, and if you create a simplified part from an assembly and break the link, there is no longer any tie to the assembly and components. If you must relocate the part later, you can delete the constraint. Or ifyou like something that was saidand it was helpful, Kudosare appreciated. Go to Solution. Once you have your subassembly C, you can delete the two messed-up copies of subs A and B, and delete the temporary assembly you used to perform the promote and demote functions. Check you have setting properly set "Update physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies)" Create the new empty assembly and save it. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Go to Solution. If you selected them on the File Open Options dialogs, you can change them here. Furthermore since you have highlighted it: For (at least a Vault Environment) some application options should have been fixed and only to be changeable by an administrator. I tried that tool but that's not what I wanted to do. In Inventor - start a new Part file, go Insert-->Import. You can do it in two clicks with Simplify. Save assembly (and all parts involved) to specific location using API I'm possibly having a basic misunderstanding of how to correctly save an Inventor file with the API. The active model state contains the components that define the envelope size. 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