FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? FLOTHE: Uh huh. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). FLOTHE: Horns? Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. FLOTHE: Hmm. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. CINDY: Uh huh Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. 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FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. CINDY: Well, I didnt. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. 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FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. 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Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. Maybe they were different frames. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. FLOTHE: Um hmm. The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. Glenn Flothe, AST. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. FLOTHE: How did you know that? FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. What was your reaction when you first read the script? I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. Interesting stuff. CINDY: Nope. About four stairs to get into the house. [Installment Three]. CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. Glenn Flothe, AST. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. FLOTHE: How did he get in? And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. So he shows up Sunday night, then. And who showed you those pictures? CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. CINDY: Uh huh. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. Over the last 30 years, Cindy has facilitated more than 100 successful workshops/work sessions, including a dozen all-day . FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. Then they would meet. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. Hudgens: Its important for me because its easy for people to make snap judgments about young women in her position. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. Cause that was the smallest he had. CINDY: Uh huh. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. He joined the ADN in 2004. Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Normally, people try avoiding that. Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. CINDY: Uh huh. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. But then also, it was not personal enough that it would come home with me and affect my sleeping. Brown shoes. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? And he had called me and I slept through it. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? John Paulson. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. He was 75 years old. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. She described the kidnapper and his plane to authorities, but when police questioned him, he had an alibi and a gentle demeanor, so they let him go. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde Required fields are marked *. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Ah. CINDY: Number five. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. She left the ADN in October 2018. He was convicted of just four of the murders in a deal that spared him having to go to trial 17 times. CINDY: Uh huh. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. This is a very intense film. While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was CINDY: Tons CINDY: Um hmm. Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. You know, like mine is. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Your email address will not be published. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. CINDY: Yep. The trooper instinctively knew that the girl had been telling the whole truth, that Robert was his killer, and more women were going to die unless he was quickly stopped. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. He doesnt mess around. What made you want to do it? FLOTHE: Thank you. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: In jeans. Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? CINDY: Uh huh. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. CINDY: Yes, directly. I always wanted to do dramas. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. He was really sweet. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. CINDY: I dont think so. Can you tell us how that all came about? View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. I said, fine, we can do it in the car. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. FLOTHE: Turning the tape off at 8:34 pm. Dont worry. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. FLOTHE: OK. Email [email protected]. Way down on the floor. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? Previously I would avoid the conversation about my significant other, she says. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? Glenn Flothe, AST. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. CINDY: Im positive. Okay. CINDY: He approached me. Glenn Flothe, AST. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. It was just shocking and disturbing. (Sound of pages turning. Only a dozen bodies were located. CINDY: Um hmm CINDY: Yep. Your email address will not be published. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. It was super fun and really quick. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. FLOTHE: OK. Its been some time since you last talked to him, in fact, its been quite some time. Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. There. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. Police suspected the real death toll was even higher. This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Hudgens: That was great. CINDY: Yeah. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. 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